And it has the strength of economic agents?
SA: Yes, totally. The economic and business part of all CPLP countries are in complete agreement, in the report we presented in Dili is already one of the priorities that the confederation places. To go further is not only a free movement of people and goods, but also of capitals. It makes no sense in today emerging economies, Angola, Mozambique, Green Cape and others that are consolidating their economies and certainly by the very insecurity of capital have to look around for markets in London or Hong Kong, outside the Portuguese-speaking world, to keep, or to invest their money.
Now with the crisis that Europe is going through with illegal immigrants and refugees, in a scenario in which some countries want to permanently close its borders, to stop people from coming, you believe that your idea will continue to have consistency?
SA: Well, our view is at the level of the Portuguese-speaking community. Here we are talking about other Anglophone and Francophone communities and in this type of community does not make sense to keep barriers within countries and then integrate them, being a community with barriers, if you have to ask please to circulate inside your home, to move from room to the kitchen, so you better give it up, right?
But the question is the free movement within the European countries.
AS:. We are talking about speaking portuguese community and we are strong only if we do it together. Notice that the economic crisis when it came to Portugal, which is a small territory, suffered heavily and had to make great sacrifices, but has accumulated know-how, the technology that could more easily be leveraged in Lusophone countries that have natural and human resources and that lack technology and knowledge. This marriage of small and medium-sized Portuguese companies to join the other African countries turning their resources added value, not in terms of export of raw materials, but rather to employ these people in that way this young country will avoid this wave abusive of emigration because this whole situation arises thru the despair of people who do not have access to employment and standar average life, people emigrate in search of solutions. Africa has many natural resources and a young population that needs knowledge to transform their raw materials into the final product and create a chain of values. It's a new regard. If we, in the CPLP level do not confront it with this exchange of view we are losing a huge capital which is the language, which is around 17% of costs in companies. Which means today in large companies top managers speak two or three languages, but from the second level down the language is a very important factor and we are throwing away all this capital we have in our hands, for merely taboos. Today we see a great migration of Portuguese companies in these countries, Angola and Mozambique, and we still create a resistance, a struggle, why? By reciprocity. If we open naturally, will naturally filtered all this, who wants to invest in Portugal does it, who wants to do the reverse can do it as well and the aim is to create a strong community, that may lead the global economy. In two decades we represent 25% to 27% of the world's oil and gas, the portion of land and water that we have in our nations and the conditions for tourism, I only speaking of these three factors, we can be strong if we are together, or weak if each act on its own.
Another important factor of your speech was to have focused agriculture ...
SA: And energy.
Addressing agriculture, Brazil and South America in general, control much of the global power market.
SA: Notice that Angola has focused its economy in a precious item that was oil representing 92% of the market share, 6% on diamonds and 2% of the rest. Today with the fall of the crude oil barrel prices they are in trouble. Mozambique has a different scenario, because it was growing at a rate of 7% without oil and without gas, using this capability of land and existing water can generate many jobs which is what PALOPS need and Portugal can contribute much to this, can be a lever to stabilize small and medium sized Portuguese companies and not only can help the social development of these countries, because an Angolan businessman sitting at the table with his Portuguese counterpart and vice versa is easier than with a Chinese businessman. These are factors which must be recovered. Entrepreneurs must have this ambition and vision for the future.
